DR.Who


#326

Worth noting also how much of Gold’s music during Moffat’s tenure stayed on the floor. After he wrote “I Am the Doctor,” the directors basically kept throwing out everything else Gold wrote and just mixing that back in again, to his growing frustration. There’s probably a whole album of original music he wrote for the show that the production team chose not to use, in favor of recycling a couple of things he’d written years earlier.

He wrote an original theme for Tom Baker’s Doctor – okay, Curator – that they tossed in favor of music he’d written for River Song two years earlier.


#327

Which one is that? YouTube is more like Poo Tube right now.

“This is Gallifrey” has traditionally been my favorite of his stuff, though there are several options.


#328

I think you meant to link to


#329

Oh, it’s working now. Yes; not too big on Dudley Simpson, but that’s him at his most memorable.

I tend to think of this, vis a vis 20th century Who.


#330

Bloody hell, that episode.

They pulled it off.

(I also like how they basically no-platformed the Proud Boy villain. No, you don’t get to tell us your story. Go away.)


#331

that was generally fine in a 1980s afterschool special/episode of quantum leap kind of way. it could have gone way wronger i suppose. i kind of wish they had stuck closer to the actual history of the bus boycott and rosa parks not giving up her seat as a planned activist activity to create a more favorable version of the claudette colvin story and everything. this makes it feel like she just had a good idea on a whim, (which to be fair is the mythology the montgomery activists created but i mean it’s 2018). i guess all of this wouldn’t have felt like such a big deal to me if the whole episode didn’t hinge on the false concept of “it had to be this one moment in history” she literally would have just done it the next day or whatever

feels like they are taking some of the agency away from people

the banksy and elvis stuff was cute though


#332

Oh. Did we cover that there’s an actual mpreg episode in a couple weeks?

It’ll probably be in mkv by the time I download, though.


#333

They seemed to kind of edge toward acknowledging that side of it, with her meet-ups that Ryan stumbled into. Like, why have MLK there otherwise? There’s no way Blackman didn’t know the history. It is a little curious how the story worms around the issue, without outright contradicting the planning involved. Helps that we see so little from Parks’ perspective, and so much from the slightly-baffled out-of-timers’.


#334

Having the grandfather guy forced to deal with being the reason she got asked to stand was an interesting choice. Not sure if I was over reading or if they were slipping a bit of white privilege discourse in there.


#335

Oh, it’s all over the episode. That particular moment is… I mean. It’s got a lot going on. I absolutely see what’s happening there, but…


#336

I think I may be alone in finding this season actually much more demanding of me as a viewer than previous years, and not exactly in a rewarding way

I feel like they’re operating under a very peculiarly circumscribed version of what a broadly accessible science fiction show on a public broadcaster ought to be and unlike Davies’ Londoners or even Moffat’s weird sub-Whedon alien lesbians the whole thing is stuck together all too intentionally


#337

like no that wasn’t bad but it makes me really doubt their judgment

at some point every episode has to stop feeling like the christmas special minus christmas


#338

It’s Quantum Leap UK. The NBC version of a sci-fi show. There are pros and cons here…

Well, Quantum Leap crossed with Heroes.

  • Philip Segal era: Doctor Who on Fox (ha ha)
  • Russell T Davies era: Doctor Who on the WB
  • Moffat/Smith era: Doctor Who on the CW
  • Moffat/Capaldi era: Doctor Who on Starz (?)
  • Chris Chibnall era: Doctor Who on NBC

The idea seems to be to sneak the show back into the mainstream by making it “respectable” enough that people can’t as easily shrug it off, while also trying to do interesting and/or valuable things with the space it carves. Unfortunately Chibnall has the nuance of a carp and writes dialogue like his entire frame of reference is other TV shows. But, he seems sincere. Which helps.

FWIW, I’ve so far seen only positive responses from actual POC (mostly WOC). But this may just reflect the circles in which I gyrate.

Sometimes it’s the little things that matter, you know.

There are so many details that matter, in this. Things that define the lives of so many, that tend not to get addressed in polite (i.e., white) company.

CW: What they did to Emmit Till

Like, it’s a TV show produced by a big entity for a mainstream audience. A family audience, with lots of kids watching. You’re going in with a certain set of expectations. And every little acknowledgment of reality, that you practically never see in a context like this can seem a little bit amazing, a little bit gratifying.

That discussion behind the dumpster is so simple in script terms and easy to write off, except compare it to anything said in the last 55 years on this show. Compare it to that bullshit in the Shakespeare episode.

In which the nuances of race relations are explained to us by people like this.

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It’s… you know. It’s easy to lean back and stroke your chin and say, well, that black lady who makes a living writing speculative fiction about racial justice didn’t quite get her history about the black experience right.

Or whatever. It’s another to say, oh my God, this is the first time I’ve seen myself validated in this way, in this kind of a place. Even if I might have structured a few things differently.

It’s in all those little things, that add up, that I think makes the episode so remarkable. But, I mean. I guess I’m no one to speak either. Since, you know.

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There’s another of these in a few weeks, dealing with the partition of India. Written by this fella.

The second writer of color in Doctor Who history, incidentally, after Malorie Blackman.

Maybe next year they’ll get to write about other, more subtle aspects of their experience. But, it’s a start.


#339

One of the things that most strikes me about the episode is how it’s blocked and shot and paced, so that we’re always lingering, watching the edges of the frame, waiting for something to happen.

In an early scene, the fender of a police car quietly pulls into the foreground, and it’s one of the most terrifying things ever seen in Doctor Who. You just don’t know where the danger is going to come from in this episode – just like everyday life, for many people who don’t look like me.


#340

So, Chibnall keeps saying that the Montgomery bus boycott and partition of India were the first things that came to him when he agreed to take over the show. If that’s true, I guess it explains everything else about the show’s shape and cast?

That would, presumably, be why Graham is a retired (white) bus driver. That would presumably be why we’ve got one young black and one young south Asian companion, specifically. Presumably to give Graham motivation and hook him in more closely, that dictates that he should have some close connection with Ryan. Which sets up Grace, and in turn Grace’s absence. It’s like dominoes. Put those two scripts into place, and everything else just tumbles in line.

I’m guessing also the main cast’s experiences in Alabama and the Punjab helps to thematically set up whatever the larger story payoff is going to be with the toothy faced guys and their genocidal ways, muttered about in hushed terms on the desert planet from episode two. So that whatever sci-fi scenario the show gets into will have been grounded in familiar and human terms, illustrating that this stuff isn’t unique or a relic, and it’s a thing we’ll always have to fight against, whatever form it comes in. As a metaphor for current politics.

Which… is all pretty simple, but I guess awful times can call for easy parables. This may be the right kind of storytelling for 2018. I dunno.

We’ll see! Presumably.


#341

I think I would still rather learn about racism from anyone other than British TV writers


#342

Well, I mean, she was the children’s laureate for a few years.


#343

Hopefully nobody is seeing that in a “he’s the real victim here” way.


#344

There are distinct elements of that, but I’ve yet to see the sentiment come all out and wave its dick around as such.

This here is the closest I’ve seen or heard to my own take on the episode.


#345

Is it cheap to make a caricature of Donald Trump a likely arc villain for Doctor Who? Probably.

Did I eat it up and enjoy him getting owned by the Doctor and Spiders anyway? Definitely.