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really diggin’ the low poly Shell decal on the front of Francine, plus the clever use of the number plate fitment plate on the racing version.

Also, absolutely agree! Kei car racing is a class to relish in, it’s just that GT somehow never managed to make it feel good from part quatre++, whereas it was a thriller in ENTHUSIA or Horizon 3++.

Also also, spec racing MX5-cup from IMSA supposedly must be well received in the IMSA paddock, since i have seen it being brought up as a feeder series that drivers/officials love to watch.

Race 1 - 2021 Mazda MX-5 Cup From WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca - YouTube seen that one yet, but these are always entertaining, so hoping i have not linked the fluke of the year here!

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Yeah, the low res textures add a lot of charm to the liveries. Even with the 8x internal resolution scale I’m running!

Anyway, it’s time to chip away at more one make races! We get Tracy out to the Honda tuner to get a full race modification. I’m not super impressed by the livery with the big ol’ HONDA across the side of the car. I prefer when companies just use a huge vinyl of their logo instead. No matter, it’s the weight, rigidity, and aero enhancements that count!

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It’s time to get Tracy out to the Civic Race for racing style Civics! The Type-R Civic is already pretty stout, so we may have a chance of winning this without touching anything else. I miss Honda’s 100+hp per liter naturally aspirated four bangers. We didn’t get the Civic Type-R in the states until very recently. And that version has a turbo. Boooo!

Anyway, my suspicions about Tracy are correct. We have what it takes to place first, and we do at Grand Valley Speedway! I’m reminded how effortlessly this chassis changes direction, how freely these Honda fours rev, and how cool and utilitarian these hatches look! I just wish I could have the funky multi-colored livery that the '93 Civic gets! A couple of sedans join the party too!

Great job, Tracy!

Next we have to make the hard decision to sell a couple of cars from the garage to make room for some new ones. We pick Rachel and Stevie. The Primera (Rachel) was a decent machine, but it doesn’t really offer anything I don’t already have. The Mugen Civic Type-R (Stevie) is really cool, but I have like a thousand Civics including two Type-Rs that are faster. Also, I was never a fan of the body kit on it.

After parting ways with two cars, it’s time to purchase a new car for another one make race! We head to the Citroën dealer to pick up a Saxo. We pick the Amazon Green color and name it Lou.

The Saxo Challenge normal style takes us to the Rome Full Circuit. This is one make racing in its most pure form. Six cars of the exact same make/model/year duking it out. It’s cool to race a non racing style car again! I like seeing the cars lean more in turns! Lou revs freely and handles like a dream for a light FF car! This is the stuff! We finish first in a heated battle!

Lean!

Alright Lou! What a great day of racing! Let’s keep at it!

Now we head to the Renault dealer to buy a Clio Sport!

I now realize why Bridgette wasn’t allowed to compete with the Clio Sports. These cars are far removed from their FF counterparts. Nobody sane would remove the back seats from a hatchback to make room for a midship engine! Thankfully, Renault isn’t sane! We purchase a Clio Sport and name it Sophie. You can have any color you want, as long as it’s silver.

We head to the Clio Cup for normal style Clio Sports. If you can call a Clio Sport normal in any way. I can tell there will be no need for modification. This car is hard core from the factory. The handling isn’t quite the same as MR cars I’m used to. In a lot of situations, this car understeers quite a bit up to a point then massively oversteers. Once you get used to it, it’s manageable, but you definitely need to be awake to race this thing! Sophie defeats an army of clones and takes first at the High Speed Ring.

We might as well ascend Sophie to racing style and take care of that race. I’d love to see more color variety on the track anyway! Time for a racing modification! That deep blue is very nice.

The racing style Clio Cup takes place at High Speed Ring. Things are a bit tougher this time, and we take third.

Being in the middle of the pack and finishing less than a second behind the lead car makes me think we can probably win this thing based on the track we get. So we give it another shot at Tahiti Road. It’s very very close, but we take first! Go Sophie!

That concludes this session. The only thing we do next is sell Nancy so we have room for whatever we buy next time. According to my notes we’ll be heading to Peugot. See you then!

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nobody warned me that a Corvette '69 would be the absolute worst Jetsons car to drive

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Every session leaves me exhausted. Then I keep thinking about the next session obsessively. So let’s scratch that itch! We head to Peugot to compete in their one make race.

It’s the 106 challenge! I’m glad they’ve gone with their smallest car for their one make challenge.

We buy a 106 S16 in Blaze Yellow. We name it Curtis. Blessed tiny giant killer!

The normal style 106 Challenge is a cinch for Curtis. We finish first at Tahiti Road on the first try. I forget to get a screenshot of the final times. French momentum racing is still great!

I’m jealous of the white wheels on the rallye version.

Now it’s time to race mod Curtis. There’s only one color for the livery, but it looks cool! I also enjoy the wider fenders!

Things are about to get A LOT tougher for Curtis. We try the race three times and get the following positions:

  • Grand Valley Speedway - 4th
  • Red Rock Valley Speedway - 2nd
  • Gindelwald - 4th

We’re gonna need some upgrades! The second place finish was only accomplished by breaking every rule we could.

First we just fit some sports tires. Maybe we just need a little bit more of an edge in grip?

With the new tires fitted, we try three more times and fail to get first. It goes like this:

  • Midfield Raceway - 2nd
  • Rome Circuit Full - 2nd
  • Grand Valley Speedway - 3rd

The other cars are just a hair quicker! They always manage to inch past us any time there is a reasonable amount of straight course. And we can only do so much blocking! Time to buy a new muffler + air cleaner and an ECU tune. Hopefully that gives us the little bump we need to be competitive.

We head to Autumn Ring and finally take first! It’s a vicious battle the whole time! The AI is probably the most aggressive I’ve seen yet!

Rude! But this was fun!

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AI going crazy? Their rides have a lion as their logo for a reason!

imagine it being 1998…1999, and blasting an audio Copy of FF8’s MAYBE I’M A LION,

recorded on minidisc, out of a tinny HiFi brick while doing this race. Winning after seven tries.
A battle cry and the feeling of being at the top of the world.

Gamer identity at the end of a millennium, encompassed in a single scene.




i am sure this scene never happened iRL, no matter how many kids and youths played this game. The sheer possibility of this happening, is good enough for me.

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I thought I knew what slow was in this game. I really did. I haven’t competed in the Daihatsu Midget race yet, but I am about to compete in the Fiat 500 Meeting!

:it::it::it:

There are two Fiat 500s to choose from, and I know which one is probably the smarter choice, but I can’t say no to the '75 with its 1146lb weight and 22hp!

The RR layout is rear engine, rear drive. Much like the original Beetle, these cars were sold as “the people’s cars”. They look much cooler than the Beetle because they’re Italian. We call this car Beth.

We take Beth out to the normal style 500 Meeting at Trial Mountain. This car is phenomenally slow. I’m giving it absolutely everything it’s got, and we haven’t cracked 60mph within the first minute of the race. Even worse, the other cars are far, far ahead of us. There’s no need to try this three times. Let’s retire from the race and get straight to the tuning shop!

Since we’ll definitely need the weight reductions in order to do the racing modification later, we go ahead and take care of those now. We also fit sports tires. Then, screw it! Let’s install a turbo kit! None of the NA mods we can do offer any significant boost in engine power. We go with a stage 1 kit so we don’t lose the very little low end torque we have to begin with. The kit more than triples the power Beth is putting down!

The next attempt at the normal style 500 Meeting nets us a first place finish at the High Speed Ring! And we aren’t that far ahead of the other cars!

You can see the more modern '98 500 here in black. It just doesn’t have the style of the '75.

With the normal style race out of the way, it’s time for the racing style. We head to the tuning shop for a racing modification. It looks like just a cool paint job and tape over the headlights :laughing:

We’re about to go through a series of painful races. Beth is once again outclassed in the racing style 500 Meeting. As hard as we try, the other cars just always inch past us. We still look super cool though!

We place as follows:

  • Autumn Ring - 6th
  • Tahiti Road - 2nd (with some very aggressive tactics)
  • Clubman Stage Route 5 - 4th

We find ourselves in need of another power bump. I go a bit wild at the tuning shop and fit a racing flywheel, a single plate clutch, and a stage 2 turbo kit! We might lose a little low end torque, but we’ll just keep those revs as high as possible at all times.

The modifications pay off as we head to the Seattle Short Course. We are able to hold our own. Especially against the '98 models! This car does go around corners very well. Almost too well! We place first at Seattle!

I timed 0-60MPH at just over ten seconds.

Go, Beth, go!

I’m glad I went with the '75 model. It may have caused more pain in the long run, but I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself had I chosen the '98.

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The only KISS show I ever went to ended with Peter Criss singing this song alone on stage as an encore and it was hilarious how low tech it was, given the ridiculous excesses before.

Kinda like driving this monster after all the racing you have done.

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I had no energy yesterday after doing life stuff. So I neglected the races! But they’ll always be there waiting when I’m ready. Tonight I’m ready!

It’s a fairly quick affair, but we will take care of the last race in West City. It’s the Delta Cup at Lancia. I’ve always liked Deltas. Bless Group A rules for requiring homologation so us mere mortals can drive these rally legends to the grocery store! Tho I’m not sure if Lancias were ever sold in the United States.

There are actually three different Deltas for sale at Lancia. We decide on the Delta HF Integrale Evolutione. It seems to strike a good balance between power and weight, it has cool factory aero, and I’m hoping we won’t have to make any modifications to win the normal style one make race in the Delta Cup. We buy the car in Lancia Dark Blue and name it Tony.

We take Tony to the Delta Cup. The field is oddly half red and half blue cars despite the variety of colors offered. Some of the red cars have a cool stripe in the middle. Tony’s AWD and very reasonable power rating make for a pretty good launch. We take to the front of the field in fairly short order. This is some good one make action as the other cars are always pretty close behind. We swap first and second place with the lead car a few times, but in the end, we win the race at High Speed Ring!

Tony handles extremely well. What a chassis! I’m not detecting any under or oversteer. I’m not getting any surprise vehicle dynamics at bad times. It’s just a great example of a full time AWD system in a hatchback doing its thing perfectly! Tony is a true joy to drive!

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North City includes Germany, so we’re about to spend a lot of cash on autobahn cruisers. The first manufacturer we head to is Mercedes. I’ve driven a few luxury German cars in the past, but I’ve never driven a Merc.

The only one make here is the SLK Trophy. So we need to buy an SLK and get out there! The only available SLK is the SLK 230 Kompressor. I always liked the obscene KOMPRESSOR badge they put on the side of this car.

I always think of black and silver when I think of Mercedes, so we go with Yellowstone! I had a neighbor a few years back who had a black SLK. Her name was Kim. She was going through a bad divorce and rented the house next to mine. In honor of Kim, this car will be called Kim. I hope Kim is doing well these days!

So it’s SLK Trophy normal style time! The field is nicely populated with colorful SLKs. This is not at all what I picture when I think of Mercedes! Kim drives how I would expect a “lightweight” Merc to drive. Very drama free, a bit of understeer, and a very linear powerband despite having a small boosted four. The car feels like it delivers the same amount of torque from fairly down low all the way to redline. I’m sure this would be very comfy on the autobahn.

In some ways I love this car because it’s so planted. So confident. In other ways I am a bit annoyed at how sterile the Germans have managed to make a small roadster with a supercharged engine feel.

We finish first at Special Stage Route 5! I forget to take a picture of the results, but the name of the car is SO LONG that it obscures the times anyway. We’ll see that in the next race :slight_smile:

Racing style time! We get the three weight reductions and a racing modification. There is a yellow livery, so we keep the color we started with!

We end up at SSR5 again. I have no idea how Kim will compete with no modifications outside of the weight reductions and racing modification. The answer ends up being… pretty well! First place on the first try! Removing all this weight has made Kim a bit less planted, less confident, and more twitchy. Maybe this was better as a road car. Maybe the Merc formula shouldn’t be messed with.

Hilarious German long names result screen:

After this race we sell Kim. Like a temporary neighbor, Kim was very nice, but it’s time to move on!

That’s enough German engineering for one session! We’re headed to Aston Martin next.

The only one make here is the DB-7 Trophy. So we have to buy an expensive DB-7. There is the Volante which is a convertible that weighs over four thousand pounds and costs more than the Coupe, and the Coupe. We go with the Coupe in a lovely Derwent Green. We name the car James.

The DB-7 Trophy’s normal race ends up being at Trial Mountain. This course is very good at finding shortcomings in very fast cars. It’s bumpy, and it has fairly long straights that go into pretty tight corners.

James isn’t quite TVR-crazy, but the car is raucous. It’s actually pretty controllable, but a lot more throttle steering is needed than I expected. Do DB-7s make good drift machines? I certainly drifted a lot in this race. Drifted right into first place!

Up next is the racing style DB-7 Trophy race. This one is at Red Rock Valley Speedway. Again, we go in with the required racing modification and weight reductions and nothing else. We’re on a stock engine and street tires. I’m glad we get to keep the green color with the racing mod!

This more relaxed high-speed course is long but easy aside from a couple of tricky chicanes. James has the stuff to get ahead of the pack and stay there. We win first!

I love the way the sky looks on this course!

That’s all for tonight!

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Finally gettin 'round to reply:
Re Kompressor:

It is basically feeling like a bi turbo with one (smaller) turbine pushing from below, and the second one pushing in the upper range, i.e. a more potent NA engine that sounds more … raunchy. Yepp. Like that.

Also, Kompakt is written with two K’s @PolyphonyDigital.

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Time to take care of some more one makes. This will be the story of my life every time I boot this game for a long time!

Today we head to BMW. Do they still call their cars “The Ultimate Driving Machine”? We need a 3 Series for the 3 Series Cup.

Remember when the 3 Series was the small BMW? I do! The best performance we can find here will probably come from the 328ci. I guess the 330ci wasn’t out yet in '99. There is also a 323ti. I would probably rather drive the 323ti in the real world over the other models, but I want a car that will be competitive in this race. We pick a nice 328ci in Alpine White. We call it Hannah.

There is only the normal style one make race in the 3 Series Cup. I’m not sure why there isn’t a racing style race, but at least we’ll save about 100,000 credits on not having to race mod another car! We take Hannah out to the Seattle Short Circuit to face the other Bimmers.

This course is short as the name implies. It also favors cars that excel in low speed cornering with decent acceleration for those short straight sections between turns. An inline BMW six cylinder delivers some of the smoothest power out there. This car is so easy to drive fast! The handling is extremely neutral, and the engine delivers the goods from low RPM all the way to redline with maybe a bit more drama than the SLK Mercedes. We get a little sideways a few times, but it’s always under control. This is a great chassis! Hannah takes first place!

As nice as Hannah is to drive, I can’t think of any reason to keep a car in the garage that could easily be bought again later if the desire comes back. We didn’t spend a lot of time racing or dialing anything in. We just bought it and won! So Hannah is now sold to make room for the next car we’ll need.

For that we’ll head to Vauxhall.

The only one make race here is for the Tigra. I am not familiar with the Tigra at all, but I will be soon! We pick one up in Flame Red Solid. We call it Jason. This is a slick little machine!

Apricot Hill hosts the first one make Tigra race in the Tigra Cup for normal style Tigras. We head out there bone stock to see how this factory package handles. “Jog” is a great word to describe the 0-60. Despite the engine lacking drama, we are able to beat all the other Tigras in this race!

This car is just DYING for a bit more power. I’m normally not a power snob, but I really want to see how fun this thing would be with some boost! So along with the racing modification we pick up a stage 2 turbo kit. We leave the brakes, transmission, and tires alone. The race livery is kind of adorable.

Now we can kind of match that silly racecar look!

The racing style Tigra Cup race will be held at Apricot Hill. Short wheelbase cars that can cheat their way through the turns here tend do really well. We could probably sleaze our way to victory without the turbo, but the turbo makes it outright unfair. We get ahead of the pack and stay there for the whole race. It’s a win!

Nice one, Jason! I think I’ll keep this car around for now. To make room for the next car we need, we sell Forrest the '95 Celica Rally Car. I like all my Celicas, but the '95 is from my least favorite generation. It sucks having to put a car on the chopping block after every one make race.

That’s all for now!

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I hate the Tigra. I think it’s the first car in this thread I have driven.

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:bbwink:

What did you not like about it? Gutless? Boring to drive? Just generally ugly looking?

I enjoyed the virtual Tigra, but I could see how this car might be dreadful in real life.

I want to know the Winker Tigra experience!

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It was my Mum’s so it would always be something I would borrow while my car was in the gararge or getting an MOT which didn’t help my feeling on it.

Most of all I just found it be completely unreliable and was always worried it was going to breakdown. I remember commuting on the motorway once when the engine would suddenly lose power and it would drop to 30mph randomly. That was fun.

The radio would also randomly switch to aux or to radio when using the aux cable. The lights would stay on when the key was removed from the ignition. Finished work one Friday to find a flat battery.

I’m not big on cars but it just felt like driving a go-kart. My first car was a 1 litre Corsa and that was a far better driving experience. Even the time it started leaking oil driving back from Glencoe with a stinking hangover.

The Tigra got written off a few months ago.

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The driving notes actually sum it up. It was basically a Corsa with delusions of grandeur.

Also thank you for an enjoyable thread. It has made me want to play a Gran Turismo game and I don’t even like driving.

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:slight_smile: Thanks for sharing that experience. Sounds like an awful car to deal with!

Having never driven a Vauxhall, I always just think of them as bad GM cars (most GM cars are bad). The Tigra probably feels like driving a Pontiac Sunfire with even less power or something.

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It’s time for another German luxury brand. It’s time to head to Audi.

I really like some Audis. The S4/RS4 for example. And pretty much any of their powerful estates. Unfortunately, the one make race at Audi is limited to the TT.

You can’t fool me by putting a sleek body on top of a VW Golf chassis! At least the only available version is the 1.8T AWD. We buy one in Brilliant Black because these are extremely boring cars that dentists drive. We name this car Theresa.

We head to the TT Challenge normal style race at Autumn Ring. Everything about this car is fine. Power delivery? Fine. Handling? It’s fine. There is pretty much zero drama here aside from a tendency to understeer in a way that isn’t as easily corrected as one would hope.

We win first at Autumn Ring.

What a snooze fest. I am very sorry if you own and enjoy an Audi TT. I’m sure they can be great cars. I’m just not feeling it here in GT2.

Now it’s TT Challenge racing style time! Maybe the race mod will liven up Theresa’s chassis a bit? Maybe add a hint of unpredictability? Maybe we’ll finally feel something? Hint: We won’t.

Our first try takes place at Grand Valley Speedway. The other cars most likely have some power adders and/or better tires fitted. Either that, or I’m just not very good. Regardless, we finish fourth.

I’m pretty sure we can win on a short course with lots of turns. Thankfully, our second attempt takes place at Autumn Ring! In an attempt to inject a little bit of fun into this car, we treat the race like bumper cars. The AI has been doing that anyway, so fuck 'em! Our tactics that would surely get us banned from GT Sport pay off. We finish first!

Okay. That was all fine. The TT is a fine car. It’s fine. Let’s sell it now! Bye Theresa!

Next up we head to Volkswagen. We won the Golf Cup in our Golf Rally Car, but we need a normal style golf for the normal style race.

There are actually four models of Golf IV to choose from. There’s the naturally aspirated GTI, the GTI 1.8T, the Golf 2.3 V5, and the GTI V6. The NA GTI is going to be too slow against any of these other Golfs so we count that one out. The V5 vs. the 1.8T is a pretty close comparison I guess. But I’d rather get the 1.8T for the turbo upgrade potential in case that’s needed. The GTI V6 has AWD, but it’s heavier and a lot more expensive.

We go with the 1.8T. It’s the uncomplicated hot hatch formula! Slap on a turbo to turn a family hatch into a FWD rocket! This also happens to be the same if not a very similar engine that’s in the Audi TT. I’m a lot more excited about a four door 1.8T Golf than an Audi TT. We buy one in Cosmic Green and call it Woody. I wish harlequin paint schemes were available.

We win first easily at Red Rock Valley Speedway. The GTI is delightful to drive! It has a much more playful character than the TT. Also it’s a four door hatchback! I would choose this car over a TT of this era any day of the week.

Even though we bought the 1.8T, the badge on the hatch is clearly a very low res “V5” or “V6” badge :laughing:

I’m glad this session ended with a fun car! We sell Woody to make room in the garage. Next time we have to buy a New Beetle :beetle:

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