# Scorsese doubles down **URL:** \ **Category:** Cinephile Shodown\ **Created:** [November 5, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268 "2019-11-05T16:34:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jodeaux](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/jodeaux/32/205_2.png) [@jodeaux](http://selectbutton.net/u/jodeaux)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/1 "2019-11-05T16:34:00Z")
Well, he didn’t walk any of it back. Simply decided to explain in greater detail why he thinks MCU/DCU films are garbage > **[Opinion | Martin Scorsese: I Said Marvel Movies Aren’t Cinema. Let Me...](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html)** > > Cinema is an art form that brings you the unexpected. In superhero movies, nothing is at risk, a director says. ---
**Author:** ![villain](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/villain/32/371365_2.png) [@villain](http://selectbutton.net/u/villain)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/2 "2019-11-05T16:45:40Z")
well… they are garbage. i don’t think he needs to explain in-depth. are people losing their minds because he called comic book movies shit? ---
**Author:** ![jodeaux](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/jodeaux/32/205_2.png) [@jodeaux](http://selectbutton.net/u/jodeaux)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/3 "2019-11-05T16:51:32Z")
The comment thread is astonishingly stupid: ![Screenshot_20191105-115009](http://selectbutton.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/2/22e5430941f3156f91e05a9c1aa7d40787955e5f.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20191105-115001](http://selectbutton.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/f/ffcfebb7a876600447ab60fdd0a15ff3b57e6a44.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20191105-114948](http://selectbutton.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/4/a4557d81edc0d9a20366c46aa4bbb3aff5b71f17.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![isfet](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/isfet/32/61975_2.png) [@isfet](http://selectbutton.net/u/isfet)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/5 "2019-11-05T17:02:38Z")
strong “gamers against ebert” vibes in that comment thread ---
**Author:** ![isfet](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/isfet/32/61975_2.png) [@isfet](http://selectbutton.net/u/isfet)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/6 "2019-11-05T17:05:17Z")
“themes of self sacrifice” the dude made a fucking Jesus movie where the fuck do you think the concept in Western ideology maps from ---
**Author:** ![bib](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/bib/32/346415_2.png) [@bib](http://selectbutton.net/u/bib)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/7 "2019-11-05T17:16:02Z")
man i hope he keeps touching on this every few weeks for like three years and every time he just keeps being like, yeah, i really did mean it ---
**Author:** ![daphaknee](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/daphaknee/32/314619_2.png) [@daphaknee](http://selectbutton.net/u/daphaknee)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/8 "2019-11-05T17:19:36Z")
im so glad he didnt back down, but this whole thing is so tiring ---
**Author:** ![Gate88](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/gate88/32/2648_2.png) [@Gate88](http://selectbutton.net/u/Gate88)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/9 "2019-11-05T17:54:43Z")
I’ve literally only heard about it here, so another point for my strict “avoid twitter” policy! ---
**Author:** ![daphaknee](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/daphaknee/32/314619_2.png) [@daphaknee](http://selectbutton.net/u/daphaknee)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/10 "2019-11-05T17:55:19Z")
i have not heard about it on twitter as much as here ---
**Author:** ![Gate88](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/gate88/32/2648_2.png) [@Gate88](http://selectbutton.net/u/Gate88)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/11 "2019-11-05T17:56:34Z")
oh no my house of cards! ---
**Author:** ![u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/u_u/32/46086_2.png) [@u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/u/u_u)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/12 "2019-11-05T18:14:15Z")
I agree with everything he says in the op ed even though I think Ant-Man 2 is a better movie than Shutter Island in every possible way ---
**Author:** ![daphaknee](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/daphaknee/32/314619_2.png) [@daphaknee](http://selectbutton.net/u/daphaknee)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/13 "2019-11-05T18:19:30Z")
i take it back i checked twitter. youre right for avoiding it, @Gate88 ---
**Author:** ![u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/u_u/32/46086_2.png) [@u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/u/u_u)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/15 "2019-11-05T18:35:51Z")
i think part of what i’m feeling about this is the same sense of disappointment and confusion i felt when i realized that ‘digital natives’ don’t actually know anything about how the internet works like i had just sort of mistakenly assumed that part of contemporary media literacy meant being able to understand that marvel movies are fun but are categorically not profound works of genius ---
**Author:** ![spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/spacetown/32/453_2.png) [@spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/u/spacetown)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/16 "2019-11-05T19:02:51Z")
turns out even if you’re a native of the time you still gotta learn that literacy especially when the landscape is you having to be literate in a thousand different languages all at the same time it probably crowds out a lot of room for literacy around film and literature and stuff all you need to do is look at fandom as a whole to see it ---
**Author:** ![spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/spacetown/32/453_2.png) [@spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/u/spacetown)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/17 "2019-11-05T19:13:38Z")
like, scorsese saying that his problem with most of this is that it’s meant for consumption as opposed to experience is spot on you’d think that our generational explosion of production and consumption of art would have made us better at understanding it but because it’s consumed instead of actually reflected upon we’re not ---
**Author:** ![jodeaux](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/jodeaux/32/205_2.png) [@jodeaux](http://selectbutton.net/u/jodeaux)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/18 "2019-11-05T19:21:56Z")
Also, his claim that there’s an entire industry averse to both risk and the idea of art is disturbing. Take for example what Disney is doing by denying indie theaters the chance to screen anything from the Fox back catalog. Not only does this ensure a user base in the future for their inevitable streaming effort but it also guarantees we’ll have an entire future generation who won’t actually know what a good film looks like. They’ll have all been locked away behind paywalls. So Disney can roll out whatever bullshit to barf down our throats like a mother bird feeding its baby. ---
**Author:** ![spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/spacetown/32/453_2.png) [@spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/u/spacetown)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/19 "2019-11-05T19:26:42Z")
yeah I’m imagining this horrible dystopia where movie theaters are mini-disneylands and that’s all that exists in terms of big screen theaters it’s kind of already happened to music tbh - most live music experiences that people go to these days are these monster $300-$400 dollar big ticket festivals while your local venues are slowly getting gentrified out of existence ---
**Author:** ![Tulpa](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/tulpa/32/74969_2.png) [@Tulpa](http://selectbutton.net/u/Tulpa)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/20 "2019-11-05T19:33:09Z")
I live in Olympia, a town with a supposedly vibrant music scene but there’s no real venues. House show acoustics suck and I can only stand to see a band playing with bad sound in the corner of a dingy bar so many times ---
**Author:** ![toups](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/toups/32/80881_2.png) [@toups](http://selectbutton.net/u/toups)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/21 "2019-11-05T20:16:12Z")
this shit is so frustrating because I feel like this article is very reasonable, nothing inflammatory is being said. I don’t even view his original state as inflammatory. why do people care so much. I mean I know why but thinking about it is so exhausting/depressing. ---
**Author:** ![u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/u_u/32/46086_2.png) [@u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/u/u_u)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268/22 "2019-11-05T20:34:26Z")
i hope someone is planning a line of goodfellas and casino inspired funko pops just to spite him [Next page](http://selectbutton.net/t/scorsese-doubles-down/9268.md?page=2)