# Playdate

**URL:** <http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462>\
**Category:** King of Posters\
**Created:** [May 23, 2019, 3:36am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462 "2019-05-23T03:36:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![disestablished](http://selectbutton.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@disestablished](http://selectbutton.net/u/disestablished)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:41am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/41 "2019-05-23T02:41:52Z")

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I might have said _Super Crank Bros._ But crankbrothers is a great MTB pedals and parts brand and I have their pedals on both my bikes.

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**Author:** ![anothersphere](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/anothersphere/32/89599_2.png) [@anothersphere](http://selectbutton.net/u/anothersphere)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:49am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/42 "2019-05-23T02:49:05Z")

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12th title is a port

![crankpscsaas](http://selectbutton.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/d/0/d0135e48ba6119eff4d4a89f86ee4254afc3f792.jpeg)

 ![crankpcs](http://selectbutton.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/c/bcf60c01443746fae8b15a97ed41d0cb1f191599.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![disestablished](http://selectbutton.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@disestablished](http://selectbutton.net/u/disestablished)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:53am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/43 "2019-05-23T02:53:49Z")

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couple a cranksters right there

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Mechanical](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/mr_mechanical/32/51381_2.png) [@Mr\_Mechanical](http://selectbutton.net/u/Mr_Mechanical)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 3:49am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/44 "2019-05-23T03:49:32Z")

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Which indie darling should they ask to develop a tie-in game for the Jason Statham action vehicle Crank?

 ![image](http://selectbutton.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/6/1/612b8a24430427a2e7d4ddc550bc1f3340d690ee.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/spacetown/32/453_2.png) [@spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/u/spacetown)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:17am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/45 "2019-05-23T04:17:48Z")

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i like everything about the idea of a new game just appearing on your device and having a physical object to actually play things on as opposed to whatever virtual morass most games appear on these days

but I kind of don’t trust teenage engineering to do this well; it worked in music because the space they jumped into was historically one reserved for super hardcore producers and the idea of music making as play is cool and fun but they did this by making a really expensive single piece of hardware that has very little ability to interface with anything else (unless you buy an 80 dollar thing that literally just gives you MIDI) and has a very strict workflow when it comes to actually laying out a track. it’s perfect in isolation and great for getting people into the idea of making music but you hit those limits pretty quickly and once you’re there you’re out a thousand bucks (for comparison, the digitakt has totally changed the way I make music and it is 1. cheaper and 2. has lots of connectivity and eight whole midi tracks for me to sequence other gear with)

and they just re-released the op1 for like, 400 dollars more for no real reason? like they haven’t announced any additions to it or anything, it’s just coming back but it’s more expensive now. that’s it

so like, I dunno, I like the ideal situation they’re going for but it’s still way too boutique imo.

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**Author:** ![spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/spacetown/32/453_2.png) [@spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/u/spacetown)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:20am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/46 "2019-05-23T04:20:12Z")

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look this should probably be going in that music hardware thread but

novation’s circuit is also an all-in-one groovebox with synth capabilities but it interfaces with other things and it’s 300 bucks and novation has significantly updated it since its inception? like it’s almost a completely different instrument now

and the electribe 1s are still used these days and electribe 2s are kinda ass but mostly because they’re punching way above their weight cost to capability-wise

op1 is really expensive with some amazing synth engines but really hamstrung by its reliance on tape loops and the opz requires you to have an ios only device for a screen

and like, I only know one person who uses pocket operators well

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**Author:** ![rasterradio](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/rasterradio/32/45348_2.png) [@rasterradio](http://selectbutton.net/u/rasterradio)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:26am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/47 "2019-05-23T04:26:03Z")

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No but I’m liking what I’m seeing!

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**Author:** ![spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/spacetown/32/453_2.png) [@spacetown](http://selectbutton.net/u/spacetown)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:27am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/48 "2019-05-23T04:27:54Z")

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part of me just wishes that instead of this gba dev tools got super easy to use and people started making gba games again

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**Author:** ![swarm](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/swarm/32/218639_2.png) [@swarm](http://selectbutton.net/u/swarm)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 5:03am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/49 "2019-05-23T05:03:05Z")

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I like everything about this except the price and that it isn’t open to homebrew, though I’m guessing someone will make that happen fairly quick? I’m temped to pick one up just to flip it on ebay later and make a profit, though.

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**Author:** ![BustedAstromech](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/bustedastromech/32/6425_2.png) [@BustedAstromech](http://selectbutton.net/u/BustedAstromech)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 5:15am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/50 "2019-05-23T05:15:35Z")

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Ah, I didn’t check to see that it was a synth hardware company before making the comparison but I’m glad that hunch paid off.

My outsider impression is that there’s a spectrum from ‘boutique toy’ to ‘usable hardware’ (and so much physical synth stuff has some connotation of ‘toy’ given the unlimited power of PC software) and so many of these devices are sold for people to show off and plink on as parties wind down at 3am, and

yeah, that sounds like a perfect little niche for boutique projects. I’m positive these games are all about a month or two of work from these solo designers, which is to say, less than $250k laid out for games and no intention of expansion. It just is, and here’s what you do with money, and ~~~~

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**Author:** ![Hache](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/hache/32/74228_2.png) [@Hache](http://selectbutton.net/u/Hache)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:38am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/51 "2019-05-23T06:38:25Z")

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Signed up for updates, and checked the box indicating interest in developing for this thing, because why not.

Honestly I’m more interested in handheld emulation systems and handheld homebrew systems, but this thing looks neat. Wish it were aiming to be a more open platform.

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**Author:** ![shrug](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/shrug/32/123345_2.png) [@shrug](http://selectbutton.net/u/shrug)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 7:07am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/52 "2019-05-23T07:07:36Z")

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> [@toups](#):
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> I lowkey wish the crank also recharged the battery but this still looks neat as heck

extremely disappointed this is not the only purpose for the crank tbh

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**Author:** ![LaurelSoup](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/laurelsoup/32/123857_2.png) [@LaurelSoup](http://selectbutton.net/u/LaurelSoup)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:42am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/54 "2019-05-23T11:42:28Z")

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If you want to play Gameboy roms on something that’s kind of like a smartphone, you’re already well covered.

Bring on the quirky hardware and the crank-based games.

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**Author:** ![isfet](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/isfet/32/61975_2.png) [@isfet](http://selectbutton.net/u/isfet)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:51am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/55 "2019-05-23T11:51:01Z")

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i’m kind of not feeling this. like, it’s cute, but i can do a lot of things with $149. i’m not convinced this isn’t just meant to appeal to the nostalgia of people within my age demographic or very-specific hobbyists, and i guess i’ll make a real judgment call when i see what the games turn out to be.

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**Author:** ![u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/u_u/32/46086_2.png) [@u\_u](http://selectbutton.net/u/u_u)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:55am UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/56 "2019-05-23T11:55:23Z")

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by the way, the other gimmick of this (that i don’t think has come up itt yet? i read fast) is that the games are “surprises” that are delivered to the console automatically every week over a span of a few months. so the price also includes the cost of all the games. i wonder how it will work after the initial roll out.

it seems cute and fun and probably a little self indulgent. video games!

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**Author:** ![Hache](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/hache/32/74228_2.png) [@Hache](http://selectbutton.net/u/Hache)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/57 "2019-05-23T12:54:12Z")

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I honestly feel like I’m not? At least, my target isn’t GB, but GBA / SNES / MD, and aside from smartphone emulation (ew) or custom-building a raspberry Pi solution, there’s really nothing.

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**Author:** ![a\_new\_duck](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/a_new_duck/32/342990_2.png) [@a\_new\_duck](http://selectbutton.net/u/a_new_duck)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/58 "2019-05-23T13:03:48Z")

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Can e-ink refresh fast enough now to do this? Cause I find that very appealing.

I want to port my games to this, but I’m sure I don’t have the programming chops to do it and I’m sure they wouldn’t want me to.

I like a lot of the ideas about it and it’s probably worth $150 if I had more disposable income but I think I’ll get a refurbished Switch instead.

Hoping any really neat exclusives find a place to call home after this thing flounders.

I mean, maybe it won’t flounder.

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**Author:** ![Hache](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/hache/32/74228_2.png) [@Hache](http://selectbutton.net/u/Hache)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/59 "2019-05-23T13:32:22Z")

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There’s no way this can sell like a traditional game platform on account of 1) admitted limited supply, 2) heavily curated library. But it maybe doesn’t have to in order to be considered successful?

Like, this thing could do worse numbers than the worst-selling console and still be a success on its own terms.

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**Author:** ![a\_new\_duck](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/a_new_duck/32/342990_2.png) [@a\_new\_duck](http://selectbutton.net/u/a_new_duck)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/60 "2019-05-23T13:43:14Z")

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Yeah, I was being overly negative. I think this thing looks neat and there could be times in my life when I’d be truly hype about it.

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**Author:** ![VastleCania](http://selectbutton.net/user_avatar/selectbutton.net/vastlecania/32/346113_2.png) [@VastleCania](http://selectbutton.net/u/VastleCania)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](http://selectbutton.net/t/playdate/8462/61 "2019-05-23T14:04:33Z")

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> [@a\_new\_duck](#):
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> Can e-ink refresh fast enough now to do this?

Firstly, I’m not convinced this is an E-ink display. From the edge article:

> **Much like the E-ink screen you’d find on a Kindle** , it’s not backlit – the difference is that it’s tremendously reflective, the visuals wonderfully sharp and clear in the California sunshine.

Emphasis mine, that’s the only time they mention E-ink

Secondly: sort of? Even on old nooks and things you can basically just turn off the constant refreshing. Of course that means there’s lots of ghosting, but it does improve the framerate significantly. I hacked my nook to play Angry Birds and it was actually decent.

Here’s an e-ink monitor playing a video:

[![](https://dlcn7yodlhcnn.cloudfront.net/original/4X/e/d/e/edef197ac32a32591c65fcbc9e0c0c42af3f0f51.jpeg "Dasung Paperlike PRO vs Onyx Boox Max2 Pro Extended Monitor") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pw-oCItgx8)

I don’t think this is good enough to play games though. This still looks like, what…10-15 FPS? And with a lower resolution it might be significantly faster, but…yeah it’s not great. It’s not an ideal experience.

Anyway my first reaction was “Oh, this looks pretty cool!” But then the more I think about it being $150 and closed source, basically, the less interested I am.

still looks nice though.

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